2018 DIFFUSER RECOMMENDATIONS

Dr. Ed Close's 2017 DIFFUSER RECOMMENDATIONS
By Edward R Close, PhD, and Jacquelyn A Close
Copyright April 12, 2017

IMPORTANT NOTICE
The Diffuser recommended in our book, Nature's Mold Rx, is no longer available from the Company identified.

Please be certain that you only use a cold-air diffuser when addressing mold in buildings. Diffusers that use water or heat will not work. Water feeds mold. When you use a diffuser that utilizes water for dispersion of the essential oil, you will be diffusing about 97% water. You cannot diffuse a sufficient amount of essential oil to reduce or eliminate mold spores in the air or on surfaces if you use an ultrasonic, rainstone, aria, or any water-based diffuser.  

General information about diffusing

Where To Place The Diffuser...

It is suggested that you place the diffuser at counter-top or table-top level in the center of a room to facilitate dispersion of the micro-mist of oil throughout the space. If your room is greater than 1,000 sq. ft. or has ceilings higher than 10 ft, then use 2 or more diffusers and place them in the center of the half or quarter sections of the room. A placement in the center of each space to be diffused is helpful to overall remediation goals, but it is not absolutely required.

Essential Oils and Furniture...

Essential oils can damage finishes on fine furniture because oils break down hydrocarbons. Most furniture finishes contain hydrocarbons. Therefore, if you are placing the diffuser on a piece of furniture that you wish to protect, we strongly urge you to put a glass plate under the diffuser to prevent spills from damaging the furniture finish. We also recommend that you clean up any spills immediately. 

We are often asked if the oils leave deposits on furniture. We have found that when diffusing in the same space for 10 years or more and doing that several days each week will leave noticeable traces on furniture, walls, counter tops, draperies or other items in the near vicinity so long as the diffuser is pointed into the room and away from other items. If, however, you leave a diffuser in the same spot for several months or several years and run it for the Close Protocol, you may notice a slight discoloration on whatever the diffuser is sitting. For long-term diffusing we suggest that you place the diffuser on something that is not precious or irreplaceable. You can always place a glass or plastic plate underneath the diffuser to protect your furniture surface. And again, ALWAYS CLEAN UP ANY SPILLS OF OIL IMMEDIATELY.

Can I Stay In The Room With the Diffuser?

We have no way to determine how oils will affect a particular individual. Please remember that each person is a unique individual, with different body types, different blood types, and different body chemistries. While many people report they feel much better when they are with the diffuser and want to be next to the diffuser during the entire 24 hour period of diffusing recommended as part of the Close Protocol, others cannot tolerate that long-term exposure. 

Essential oils can be overwhelming if you are exposed to them for long periods of time and are not accustomed to them.

For your safety, we strongly urge you to limit your time in rooms where the diffuser is operating at maximum output to no more than 15-30 minutes at a time. 

Most people find that the oils make them feel better. Many report that they want to be right by the diffusers the entire time they are on, but we never know exactly how a given individual is going to respond to the oils. For that reason, we strongly urge that you not be in the same room with the diffuser for more than 15-30 minutes at a time. This is also true for pets.

The oils are detoxing, and they will start to break down toxins stored in your body any time you are exposed to them, and especially if exposed for longer periods of time. How will you know that you should move to another room? You might taste the oil, as though you had taken it in your mouth, or you might feel a tickle in the back of your throat, or a headache, or a slight dizziness, or you might feel like you're coming down with the flu or something along those lines. If this happens, move to another room and drink at least 8 ounces of purified water right away. If your or your pet exhibits distress, we suggest eating some bread and butter, or yogurt, or a spoonful of honey, or drink whole fat milk, or almond or soy milk. If after doing that, you are still having problems, turn off the diffuser and contact a medical professional, a Vet for pets, or contact us for additional information.

Oils and Pets
We recommend moving pets to another room before running diffusers. Generally, oils will not hurt your pets, however, exposures for longer than 15 minutes to 30 minutes can affect them the same way it does humans. And, just as with humans, each pet responds in their own individual way.

If your pets are exposed to the oils and are exhibiting strange behavior, move them to another room, and follow the procedures outlined above.



Whole Fats reduce the action of essential oils. You and your pets should see a return to normal within 15-20 minutes after consuming whole fats, if it is the essential oils that are affecting behaviors. If you or your pet does not return to normal behavior in 30 minutes after consuming the fats, then contact your health professional, a local Vet, or us for additional help.



VERY IMPORTANT REMINDER -- REFILLING THE DIFFUSER
Refilling the diffuser with oil is very important to maintain the concentration needed to eliminate mold in as little as 24 hours.

When used in this manner, in conjunction with The Close Protocol outlined in more detail in the book Nature's Mold Rx, the Non-Toxic Solution to Toxic Mold, laboratory results are comparable or better than those previously reported. Our book and DVD are available for purchase, and additional information is available on the PUBLICATIONS page.




If you require additional support in using The Close Protocol, please contact us.
 

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Dr. Ed and Jacqui Close

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105 comments:

  1. Thank You Frog Lady for your kind words. We learn of new people every day who say their lives have been saved, or greatly helped by our work. Knowing that we are making a difference in people's lives makes it worth the effort.

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  2. We have mold growing in our heating unit. Have you ever used this diffuser INSIDE a heating unit?

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  3. Yes! Dr. Close has used diffusers inside heating units frequently over the years.

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  4. We think we have mold in our house because both my husband and I have tested for fungis in our bodies by our natural healing doctor. Do you have recommendations for mold test kits?

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    1. We do not recommend using mold test kits. They are a waste of money. Please see our latest article on finding a professional in your area to do proper sampling.

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  5. My husband and I are buying foreclosed home with mold in the basement on the drywall and insulation. I ordered the Aromalux Diffutuser with Theives oil and we plan on going in and turning it back on to make sure the bottle is filled. I'll let you know how it works! Thank you for sharing your research, I feel super blessed to be able to save thousands with the bonus of no harmful chemicals in our new home!

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  6. Hope it works! Are you having samples taken by a professional and analyzed in a 3rd party lab before and after diffusing? That would show whether it worked or not.

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  7. How much does a professional typically cost? I used a mold test kit from Home Depot for testing my HVAC and it came out okay, but there is visible mold in the duct work. How would I diffuse and/or clean within the entire system and ducts?

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    1. Hi Ashley - That varies with each region, State, and each job. You will also pay more for an Professional Engineer than you will someone with little or no training. Typically, here in Missouri, if you do a site visit, investigation, and take say 3 samples (including one outdoors), that will run $500-$700. In some areas that will cost closer to $1,000 to $1,500. How you diffuse and/or clean within the entire system and ducts is not something we can answer without a lot more information. This is covered in our services. If you need help, please be sure to read the REQUEST HELP page on this website.

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  8. Hi.
    You mentioned an electric connection to help diffuse the oils. May I ask if the plug/ outlet is 110 volts? I plan to use this in Asia where our outlet is 220 volts.
    Suzanne

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  9. Hi Suzanne: Yes, the diffuser we recommend is for 110 volts and is set up for use in the USA. You can contact the Young Living office for Asia and ask what diffusers are available in your area. We would strongly suggest that you get a cold-air diffuser similar to the TheraPro or the AromaLux and Young Living will be able to tell you if they have that diffuser available for use in other countries. Hope this helps.

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  10. I have been running two therapro diffusers at each end of my unfinished basement with low ceilings and no windows. The square footage is 1325 sq. ft. My goal is to run the diffusers refilling with thieves every 10 hours for 72 hours at the settings you noted in your article. After 48 hours, I noticed I have two white furry mold spots that were not on the cement floor before diffusing. Should I be concerned?

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    1. If you are using Young Living Thieves oil and the TheraPro Premium Diffuser and at least 1 full 15 ml bottle of Thieves oil was diffused during the 24-hour period, then it is most likely that you are seeing the mold that has died. Mold often changes color after diffusing with Thieves oil. Without doing testing, there is no way to know for certain what those spots are.

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    2. We accomplished the protocol. What is the protocol now to prevent mold from recurring? Which settings do I use on the Thera-pro, and how often should I run it?

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    3. A question: during the protocol, one of the Thera-pros leaked oil, probably because I did not set it up properly. So we extended the full-blast full-bottle to 36 hours, just in case we did not get the full result on that side of the house during the first 12 hours. Hopefully, this will achieve the proper result. What do you think? Is it time now to have the mold inspector come back to measure?

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    4. Hi Phil -
      Once you have completed the Close Protocol, to prevent mold from returning, do you regular cleaning with Thieves Household Cleaner, diluted as suggested on the bottle. Fun the TheraPro Premium Diffuser for at least 15-30 minutes a day in each room/space of a building, and at least in the rooms where you have had mold problems in the past. We suggest running the diffuser using the same settings as during the Protocol, just for a shorter period of time. Alternatively, you could run it for 8-10 hours one day each week, or 24 hours once each month. This isn't required. People have found that mold levels remain below outdoor levels for months after doing the Protocol, but Thieves oil has so many other benefits. And, if you are like me and highly sensitive to mold, I run my diffuser every day for at least an hour in rooms where I spend a lot of time. I switch to other oils sometimes, but I have diffused far more Thieves oil than any other single oil or blend or combination I made myself. Don't be afraid to play with the oils and find what works for you and your family and your situation.

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    5. Hi Again Phil - You asked: Is it time to have the mold inspector come back to measure?

      It isn't clear to me that you diffused in each room of the house, based on what you said in your post above. We find that mold spore types and levels are different in each room of a house. So, just to be clear, if you have diffused in every bathroom, every bedroom, every hallway, every room separately, removed any damaged materials, and then diffused again and cleaned up any remaining visible mold with undiluted Thieves Household Cleaner, then yes it's time to have a professional come and test to find out where you mold levels are now. If you have not read our articles about ERMI testing, we strongly urge you to search for that on our website. ERMI testing is not appropriate for evaluating mold remediation results and there are many reasons why. Just do a search for Edward R Close, Natures Mold Rx and ERMI testing and the article should come up.

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    6. Hello Jacqui. I saw your post above about mold prevention maintenance after the close protocol. Are you saying the Protocol itself is not permanent?

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  11. Is using Thieves for 24 hours safe for my cats to be around? Should I remove them from the house and if so, for how long?
    Also, how do you diffuse in a basement when there are central air vents in the house?
    Thanks you,
    Gail

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    1. Hi Gail - Cats, like people, respond differently depending on the cat. Some cats love oils, but many do not. If I wanted to be absolutely certain to keep my furr-babies safe, I would board them while diffusing intensively, or at the least move them a room where there are no diffusers running and then monitor them closely. While short periods of diffusing should not be an issue, it's always best to go the extra mile to protect our pets.

      Regarding diffusing in a basement...
      You have to diffuse your central air system if it opens into the basement. There are many questions that would have to be answered in order to provide appropriate suggestions. This would require a consultation with Dr. Ed Close. You can check on our REQUEST HELP page for more information.

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  12. Because plastic is porous, will Thieves (per your instructions) work on them if placed in the room being remediated? My boys have 1000's of legos and I'm trying to figure out if they can be saved. We have stachybotris in the home we are in but moving this week.

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    1. Hi Stacey - It would be difficult to properly diffuse to get rid of mold on the legos, however, you can diffuse and then spray and wipe them down individually with the Thieves Household Cleaner if you do not have any mold growing on the legos. That would be labor intensive, but do-able. Depends on whether you have the time - may be more cost effective to buy new ones. If you chose to clean the legos, be certain you get into all the nooks and crannies. And so you know, colors and plastics may be affected. Be sure to wear gloves and a face mask when you are cleaning them.

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  13. My Therapro diffuser is not diffusing. It turns on, runs for the specified length of time, shuts off the specified length of time, but no vapor is coming out of the nebulizer. Could it be that the nebulizer is clogged? Is it possible to clean it or the unit itself?

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  14. Hi Cass - Yes, sometimes the atomizer or nebulizer gets clogged. The TheraPro comes with a second atomizer. It is included right in the box. Replace that and see if it makes a difference. If you have additional questions, please contact Young Living and ask for their assistance with your diffuser.

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  15. I read on another site that Thieves won't kill aspergillus penicillian mold unless Thyme or Lemongrass is added. What are your thoughts in this?

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    1. In testing we have done, Thieves oil has eliminated aspergillus/penicillium molds every time except 1, when the building was surrounded by corn fields. In that one instance, we added an additional 24-hours of diffusing with Purification and that eliminated the problem. Please keep in mind that this is the only time this has ever happened. So, we have only seen 1 species out of the 180 different species of aspergillus/penicillium that did not respond to the Thieves oil. If your house or building is not surrounded by corn fields, then you probably will not find that particular species of asp/pen. Thieves has always worked in every other instance, even for asp/pen species of mold. While Thyme and Lemongrass are reportedly effective oils for addressing mold based on in-laboratory studies, both oils have aromas that have proven overwhelming for some people when tested in the field during extensive periods of diffusing. Thyme and Lemongrass do not smell as good as the Thieves oil blend, and they do not eliminate the broader spectrum of mold species addressed when using the Thieves oil blend. So, while it could help, it probably isn't necessary in most cases.

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  16. So your article is a year old, did you finish testing the AromaLux diffuser and do you now recommend it for mold remediation in a home. My son's house had mildew condensation on his bedroom window that he neglected, the humidity was too high in that room because he velcro'd the curtain around the condensating window, there was mold growing on the curtains and he started to notice light mold growing on clothing in his closet near that window and on some pages of books, and the carpet seems moist. So we cleaned all the mildew up with bleach, threw away the curtains and pieces of clothing, dusted everything and vacuumed everything, and are drying out the room but now we want to buy the thieves and defuse the room and re-wipe with the thieves cleaner the furniture. I know you can't tell me for sure if you think with will be sufficient unless we test the air etc afterwards, but since it wasn't too big of a problem would you be able to give me your opinion?

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  17. Bleach was a bad decision. Really sad to hear that you used that. Mold returns within 24 hours of using bleach. Regarding our testing of the AromaLux, we cannot recommend the AromaLux at this time due to the results of the tests we have performed. However, Dr. Ed Close is working with Young Living to implement changes to the AromaLux that will allow that diffuser or possibly a new diffuser to be utilized in addressing mold. For the time being we continue to recommend the TheraPro Premium Diffuser.

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  18. Hello, I wonder if the protocol I'm about to try (I got your book and also ordered the diffuser and EO) will treat the mattress, couch and clothing in the room? I would be so happy. My apartment was already remediated and I had to move out (toilet leak under the bathroom floor. They pulled out old rotten wood did standard remediation) but when I moved back in I found my clothes and furniture are contaminated with mold spores and seems all fabrics and upholstery aren't to be trusted. Otherwise, do you suggest to treat anything further to save these items?

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  19. Hi Ellen - We can tell you that using the protocol will eliminate mold spores that might remain in the air and on surfaces, however, all the items you mentioned are porous materials. Porous materials have surfaces, but they also have cavities/small holes/fibers where spores can hide. So, while the questions you have asked are quite common, the answers are not so simple or easy. The truth is, it really depends on how bad your mold problem was, how badly damaged or impacted by mold the individual piece is, and how sensitive you are to mold.

    Mattresses are very complicated. You can try diffusing the Thieves Oil in the room with the mattress for 24-48 hours and then turning the mattress and doing that again for another 24-48 hours. Does this mean you won’t have a problem? Not necessarily. If mold has gotten deep into the mattress and is growing where you can’t see it, then it’s going to be a problem. And, again, if you have high mold sensitivity, it would be better to get rid of the mattress than risk taking mold to a new location. Especially since you spend the largest single amount of time every day/night in your bed.

    The easy way to evaluate whether to try to clean or get rid of any specific item is to estimate the cost of replacing it compared to the cost in time/money to try to clean it. Many items are easier and less costly to simply replace.

    Clothing, sheets, blankets, curtains, dishes, children’s toys, these can all be cleaned and diffused, with Thieves Household Cleaner (THC), Thieves oil, and Thieves Laundry Detergent or Thieves Dish Washing Detergent (you may have to add THC or Thieves oil to the Laundry or dishwashing detergents), but as long as they don’t have mold growing on them and don’t smell of mold when you take them out of the washer, then they can generally be saved, but not always. And please note that THC and Thieves oil can damage garments and finishes. So, even if you use these products, you may still lose some of the items. Whether you have to add THC or Thieves oil is not something we can tell you. It depends on the item and how badly you want to keep it, and a host of other things.

    So, as said before, the questions you ask are quite common, but they are not easily answered. There are too many variables for us to be specific in our suggestions for your situation. It really comes down to you making those decisions. We are not there. We can’t see the item with our own eyes. We can’t test the item, and to do so would be outrageously expensive. So, we can only make suggestions based the very limited information provided and you will have to make the final determination.

    Anything porous is potentially problematic. If you don’t know what items are or might be porous, then do some searches online to find those answers.

    Wishing you all the best and asking that God Bless and Guide You with Right Discernment in Your Efforts.
    Jacqui Close

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  20. Hi Jacqui - Thanks very much for the info. I have been washing the clothes in a mixture of borax, vinegar, laundry detergent, a capful of THC and a capful of Thieves oil and hanging the laundry in the sun to dry. Good? The fact that the landlord & property management dragged their feet getting started remediating - is cause for a high level of spores in the air that contaminated my porous stuff. Make sense? I was out of my apartment for a month before they started to look and I couldn't have lived there without chest symptoms. They removed moldy flooring and treated for mold about 7 weeks after I moved out. I don't have any visible mold in the porous items - it is all mold dust that settled on everything. Amazingly my renter's insurance paid for some mold testing (at their cost) and found mold on a hard furniture surface and on the hammers of my piano (i had told the agent that I started coughing when I play the piano). Any suggestions for the piano? But testing did not find mold spores on 2 pieces of clothing and a futon cover. 2 of the pieces had been moved around - put in a bag and otherwise I don't know why they didn't test positive ~ Because if I use them, I'll cough. (I think I'm pretty sensitive). I don't know if renter's insurance will cover anything yet or not. But I have a $1000 deductible. The reason the mold got so bad was because a contractor put a toilet on wrong and it leaked for 18 hrs. And so I may have a case there as it was their mistake. Any and all comments - welcome and Thank You! I have been doing the Thieves protocol and it has helped immensely but there is no shortcut for treating porous items - I figured that out - and I will have to replace futon and mattress and nice chair.
    Thank you for the nice blessing as I believe God is guiding me and that's what I want!

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  21. Hi Ellen - Yes, the borax with THC and Thieves oil is a good option. Your second question sounds reasonable, but it may not be the facts. There are other possibilities. Diffusing and cleaning the piano inside and out, perhaps having the pads for the piano keys and hammers replaced, and being very careful of the finishes is the only advice I can offer. I would use THC undiluted for cleaning anything that causes problems/coughs and will remain or is located indoors. Blessings and Hugs.

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  22. Hello! Have you ever tried a different brand of EO? Just wondering because Plant Therapy has a synergy blend called Germ Destroyer with the same ingredients as YL's Thieves; however, it's less expensive. Not that money should be a determinate in health matters, but just curious. Thank you!

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    1. Hi Peggy - We do not recommend using other EOs because most all of them say not for internal consumption. If you are breathing essential oils they are going straight to your brain. We only use YL EOs because they are the only Company in the US that says their oils can be taken orally.

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  23. Just finished reading Natures Mold Rx. Excellent!! Would this protocol work for a car that has suffered from severe damp, and now has mold on interior surfaces? I have fixed the cause of the damp, and was thinking to diffuse for 48-72 hours followed by the THC for clean-up. I would really appreciate your input, Thank you so much!

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  24. Hi Biggles - Yes! We have many people who have used the protocol in a car and were very pleased with the results.

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  25. Are there other waterless diffusers that can be used for mold that are not YL brand? I use YL oils only, but can't afford the TheraPro at this time. I found some waterless diffusers that are less expensive but wondering what the output has to be to be effective for treating and preventing mold. Thanks for your help!

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    1. Hi NM -
      We are not aware of any other diffusers that work in eliminating the mold at this time. Most do not have pumps that are sufficiently large, many do not produce the proper size oil particles. We have not tested every cold-air diffuser available, because the testing is expensive. We have to purchase multiple units of the diffusers, then the oils, and pay for the sampling and lab expenses. However, over the past 11 years we have tested a lot of different diffusers and at this time, the TheraPro Diffuser from Young Living is the only one that provided reliable results that is still available and unchanged.

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  26. Update on Diffusers - Young Living is no longer offering the TheraPro Premium Diffuser. Dr. Ed Close has been working with Young Living engineers and a newly designed AromaLux Diffuser will be available that meets all Dr. Close's requirements will be available in 2017. Stay Tuned...we will post updates soon.

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  27. We followed the protocol on our new camper. Now 24 hours later the thieves smell is still too strong to enter. How long should we wait ? Thank you

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  28. Hi Tasha - It is rare that someone has problems with the oils being too strong, however, if you are experiencing problems you must follow your response to determine the answer to that question. We have never before had anyone who was not able to enter a space we had diffused with Thieves after waiting 24 hours. If you can open windows and turn on fans to pull air through the camper, the smell should dissipate rapidly. If there are high mold levels in the outside/ambient air, that might also create a problem for you, depending on how sensitive you are to mold.

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  29. We have a library of over 1000 books in our basement. We are currently in the process of searching for the reason I break out when I am in our basement. I am afraid that there is some kind of mold in the basement. We have not seen black mold, but the books sometimes leave my fingers with a dirty feeling after I touch the books.

    I have just bought your book. We are emptying this room to look behind the paneling on the wall.

    My question: Can a diffuser help with books?

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    1. Hi - Yes, a diffuser can help with books, but it is a time consuming process to save the books. Just diffusing in the room will reduce the number of spores in the air and reduce the spores on the exposed parts of the books. The exposed parts of the books are the most likely places where mold will grow on books, but due to the materials used in books, the mold can easily spread if there is sufficient moisture and basements are notorious for retaining moisture. Diffusing and using a de-humidifier will be helpful, but you would have to do significantly more to save the books.

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  30. When mold is present in the HVAC coil and duct work, is it necessary to replace the coil, unit , and duct work? I have read your book and have the CD. So, am I on track with the following protocol? Diffuse for 48 hours straight inside the coil and 24 hours in each room of the house? Is it mandatory to remove the carpet and upholstered furniture? Also is it necessary to place an electronic filter to the AC unit to reduce the particle count entering from outside? Is a central dehumidifier attached to the AC unit necessary to keep humidity under control? Thank you very much for your help and advice!

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    1. Hi Oils and Beyond - You are on the right track when you diffuser for 24 hours or more in each room and diffuse inside the unit where the A-Coil is located. We also suggest placing a diffuser in front of your return-air vent in the house to pull oils through the system. The other questions you asked can only be answered on a case-by-case basis and would require a site visit to make any valid determination. We have no idea what the particulars of a given site are unless we are there, doing visual inspections and taking samples, and doing good engineering work to make those determinations. We can say that in many cases it is not necessary to replace and remove most of the items you mentioned. It isn't necessary to have a central de-humidifer attached to the AC unit to keep humidity under control. There are other options, but de-himidifiers are one very helpful option. Although in some cases, we have seen de-humidifiers that are attached to AC units that actually caused the mold problem. If they are not properly drained or properly installed, or if the drain isn't properly maintained and becomes plugged, these types of de-humidifiers installed with and attached to AC units can be causing all or part of the problem.

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  31. When mold is present in the HVAC coil and duct work, is it necessary to replace the coil, unit , and duct work? I have read your book and have the CD. So, am I on track with the following protocol? Diffuse for 48 hours straight inside the coil and 24 hours in each room of the house? Is it mandatory to remove the carpet and upholstered furniture? Also is it necessary to place an electronic filter to the AC unit to reduce the particle count entering from outside? Is a central dehumidifier attached to the AC unit necessary to keep humidity under control? Thank you very much for your help and advice!

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    1. Hi Shannon - For most people it is not necessary to be out of the house while diffusing. In fact, many people report they feel so much better that they want to be right beside the diffuser the whole time it is running, but this is not always the case. And we don't know how a given individual will respond to the oils. For that reason, if anyone has concerns about being with the diffuser while the oils are being dispersed, then we suggest diffusing in a single room at a time. You can close that room off and remain in another part of the house, except while refilling the diffuser. This will minimize your exposure to the oils, if that is a concern, and give you a chance to determine how you will respond. On rare occasions people have moved to a hotel, but you could also stay with relatives or friends while diffusing, if that is necessary. In general, just being in another room is all that is necessary. Again, this varies from person to person, and we don't know how a given individual will respond to the oils. This makes it necessary to monitor your personal reactions closely and make choices that are suitable for your particular needs.

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  33. Any update on the new Young Living Diffuser? Thank you!

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    1. The newly designed Young Living AromaLux diffusers are not yet available for purchase. We hope to have an announcement soon.

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  34. I am not sure if anyone is checking this site anymore but is there any update on the diffuser and when it will be avaiable? I really need to get started with this protocol. Thank you.

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    1. Hi Shannon - The newly designed Young Living AromaLux diffusers are not yet available for purchase. We hope to have an announcement soon.

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  35. Any news on the new diffuser design? I'm already a YL member, however, if I weren't, I'd sign up under your sponsorship. :( Also, we have mold in our HVAC unit due to a faulty evaporator coil. The entire system has been contaminated and dispersing spores in our home. Can the Thieves oil be diffused directly inside the HVAC unit? If so, which component? the evap coil? the blower? How is this process done? Any help would be greatly appreciated, as my daughter has been quite ill due to this problem, as has my whole family. THANK YOU for your graciousness and the help that you provide so unselfishly to all of us. Have a blessed day.

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  36. Hi ConcreteArtist - The new Diffuser is a re-design of the Aroma Lux. So, it will look exactly like the Aroma Lux. The only difference will be in the diffuser head that dispenses the oils, and it won't look different, it will just function better. Regarding your question about diffusing inside an HVAC unit -- Yes! Thieves can be diffused inside an HVAC unit. Each unit is different, so it's hard to say exactly where would work best for a specific unit. However, in general, Dr. Ed Close suggests placing the diffuser in the A-Coil area. Sometimes this is not possible. Another way to do diffuse throughout your system is to place the diffuser in front of your Return Air Vent. With the fan running continuously, it will pull the oils into and through the system in about 24 hours, depending on the size and complexity of your specific air-handling system.

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    1. Thank you so very much! I have been a YL member for several years, however, I never knew about the thieves to eliminate airborne mold. I know that it was definitely divine intervention for me to have found your website. :) You and Dr. Close are a Godsend! God bless you both!

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  37. hello! money is tight right now. we have a 2k square foot home. 1k sq ft above and 1k downstairs. How many bottles of theives can i expect to go through? Does it really need to be done in each room? or does it go by square footage? dining room and kitchen are open floor plan with vaulted ceiling.what about closets? thanks so much!

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  38. Hi Str8 Jack - Vaulted ceilings are covered in the information on our Diffuser Recommendations page. Just read through the entire page. Here is the link: http://www.naturesmoldrx.com/p/blog-page.html

    Closets can generally be emptied and left opened while you are diffusing a room, unless there is a leak that is causing a problem in the closet.

    The only way to answer your question about does it really need to be done in each room would be to do a site visit and sampling to determine where the problem is occurring. This is the best approach, but not always possible for folks. That is why we say diffuse each room. Without doing sampling and site visits, we have no way to know where a problem is located at a specific site.

    How many bottles of Thieves you go through will depend on which diffuser you use.

    It's worth spending the money on the oils and diffusers. They will save you at least 1/3 (and sometimes far more) of the cost for standard mold remediation approaches, even when you go to the expense to get sampling done by an Professional Environmental Engineer. Best Wishes with your efforts.

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  39. Hi Jacqui,
    Thank you so much for your research and book, I am thankful for this information while we are dealing with mold!! My name is Cody, we have had our home tested by a company and have confirmed that we have mold in our crawl space and on some of the wood surfaces inside our home. We are going to have a professional remove the damaged material. Of course they proposed fogging our home with a fungicide and we told them we are going to use Thieves oil instead (I am a distributor for YL). The professional said that he has used Thieves before and can diffuse the EO using an ultra low volume atomizer. Does this sound right? He also recommends scrubbing the air with a HEPA filter after diffusing. Are we supposed to scrub the air after diffusing? Or should we only scub the air while removing contaminated building material.

    Thank you so much for your time!

    ~Cody

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    1. Also, if we diffuse in the crawl space, should we cover the vents while diffusing? We start remediation on June 1st. I would love to have a reply before then, if it works for you..thanks so much!!

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    2. Hi Cody - We have no way to answer your question about using an ultra low volume atomizer, because we haven't done testing for that. If you are willing to pay another professional to do the follow-up sampling, you could tell him you will let him do it only if he pays for your third-party testing to determine if it actually worked. Do not scrub the air with a HEPA filter after diffusing and before sampling, we have had instances when this pulled sewer gases and mold back into a space. It also removes the oils from the air and limits the long-term residual effects of the oils. You can and in some instances should use a HEPA filter to scrub the air while removing contaminated building materials, especially if you are not diffusing while they are removing the contaminated materials. Yes, cover vents in a crawl space while diffusing.

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  40. I am a YL member and just received my AromaLux. Is the problem with the current diffuser head that it does not produce the proper size oil particles? Will the new re-designed diffuser head fit current models and be available for purchase separately or will it only be available for purchase as a total unit?

    Also, can you estimate how long the wait will be for the new re-design to be available? Weeks or months? I am trying to decide if I should return the AromaLux and order an AromaPro or wait on the new re-designed model. Thanks for your time.

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    1. Hi Rachel - It is our understanding that the newly re-designed AromaLux Diffuser is now available. We have not completed our testing and so have not changed the information on our site yet. We expect to have an answer for all your questions soon. We have been told that you purchase the diffuser head and it will fit and work with earlier available models.

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  41. Is the new diffuser head designed to be compatible with older models of the AromaLux or will it only fit the new model? I am trying to decide if I should return the model I just received. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  42. I see that the Aromalux is available on the YL website now. Is this the new design?

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    1. To our knowledge, the new AromaLux is now available on the Young Living website.

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  43. Why do you say to remove contents of closet in a room before diffusing in the room? Also, I want to make sure my home is safe for when we sell it to the next owners. They will not know to keep diffusing so will the spores and mycotoxins stay away?

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    1. You don't have to remove the contents of a closet unless that closet is the source of mold. If you leave the contents in a closet, they will absorb the oils and reduce their ability to reach all available space in the closet. However, if the closet is not harboring a source of mold, and has not been the site of leaks, then you could leave contents in the closet. We have done testing for up to 3 months after the Close Protocol for diffusing Thieves essential from Young Living was completed and the mold spore counts were still far below mold spore counts in the outside air. We don't know with certainty how long they will stay away. We have also done testing on our back patio and saw that mold and lichens did not return for at least 15 months, but we have not been able to test to determine if that will be true inside a home or building.

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  45. Hi Shannon - Replacing Carpets is a far better solution. Steam cleaning with the Thieves Cleaner may help, but you must also diffuse intensively and there are still no guarantees that you will eliminate the possibility of mold returning if there is a source of mold beneath the carpet. Steam Cleaning uses water vapor. Water feeds mold. If you have no mold beneath the carpet, you should be okay. Although, personally, I would add a 15 ml bottle of Thieves oil to the Thieves Household Cleaner before using it to clean carpets, and you will risk damage to the carpet, either the fibers of the carpet, or the color of the carpet. So, test a small area in a place that will not be obvious so you know what kind of results you will have. There are too many variables in answering this type of question. The safest answer is to replace the carpet or at the very least remove it.

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    1. Hi Again Shannon - Additionally, you should be aware that Thieves oil will break down hydrocarbons, and plastics are made out of hydrocarbons. So, if you put the oils or household cleaner in a steam cleaner that has plastic parts, there may be some damage. Harder plastics are not as easily affected, but we always tell people don't put oils in plastic bottles or styrofoam cups because you definitely don't want to drink that if plastics are being broken down in it. We cannot say how a specific piece of equipment will be affected.

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  47. Hi Shannon - Real Time mold test???? I don't know what you are talking about. It sounds like you are talking about an ERMI test, since you mention collecting a dust samples If so, that is a worthless test for determining what needs to be done with mold remediation efforts or what has been done with mold remediation efforts.

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    1. Hi Shannon - Dr. Ed Close has reviewed the information you have posted and the information available on the Real Time Laboratory website. He said based on the information available that particular test may tell you that the particular organic chemicals identified as mycotoxins are present. It does not mean they are in the air. They are only in the air in association with mold spores or dust particles. That test is only useful to tell you whether you have mycotoxins in your house. Not how to remediate, where to remediate, or whether remediation efforts have been effective. By have a competent professional take air samples, you will know what you are breathing and what you breathe will affect you far more than what is on the floor in the dust or in your filter. Mycotoxins do not float in the air. They don't disperse in the air. They are directly associated with breathing or eating mold spores. So, if you have mold or mycotoxins in a carpet, getting rid of the spores will eliminate the danger of exposure. I hope that helps.

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    2. Thank you so much for your reply!

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  49. Hello - I'd like to know your thoughts about diffusing Thieves in a room that had chaetomium spores and others due to faulty window installation. It is less than 300 sq ft. Using a TheraPro cold air diffuser, would the volume and/or time be adjusted in anyway?
    Thank you for your thoughts, Lorie

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  50. Hi Lorie - I understand that you have chaetomium and other mold spores due to faulty window installation. However, I don't know from this information how high the mold spore count is, or what other mold spores species are involved. So based on the limited information given, the answer to your question is the time might be adjusted, but it might require more or less depending on the level of infestation, or it could be that there would no change at all. We don't suggest varying the volume. Your question helps highlight why there is such a problem with doing improper or the wrong kind of sampling. You have some information but not enough. ERMI, dust sample collection, air filter collection, and gravity collection sampling are not recommended. Dr. Close strongly recommends having a competent professional take air samples to tell you how many spores of what type are found in a cubic meter of air. Dr. Close also recommends the professional take Spore Trap Samples and pull 15 cubic meters/per minute of air for a minimum ten minute (10 min.) collection period. This provides the best, most reliable information for making determinations on how long to diffuse. Many professionals do not use a sufficient sampling period and results provided are not sufficiently representative of the entire volume of air in a given space.

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  51. Thank you for your comments, Jacqui. We had a professional remediator take the air samples. (Other rooms w/ faulty window installations were also tested, but just the one small room had the Chaetomium and it happens to be the room of a daughter w/ significant & worsening health issues. We are not saying this IS the cause of those health problems, but it MAY be, so we want to do all we can to correct the problem.). The Chaetomium was 13 spores/cubic meters w/ raw ct of 1 (vs outside ct of 0). The others included PCN/ Aspergillus 110 w/ raw ct of 2 (vs raw ct of 0 outside), Cladosporidium 160 w/ raw ct of 3 (vs6), Basidiospores 320 spores/ cubic meter w/ raw ct of 6 (vs 40), other including Alternaria, Epicoccum and smuts, Periconia and Myxomycetes of 159 w/ raw ct of 3 (vs 0). Whether he did it for the time and volume you indicated, I am uncertain. But just having any in there was alarming. We certainly want to take all the proper precautions and retest using the same method afterwards. Thank you, again, for your time and comments - Lorie
    PS - I apologize for any duplicates as I am having hard time getting this to publish.

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      Based on your report above, the counts for Chaetomium are pretty low. I would still diffuse for at least 24 hours at full volume using a TheraPro. FYI-- Having both inside and outside counts is helpful, but raw counts are only helpful if we know the multiplier the Lab uses. Ed could figure that out. However, this is why we have to charge folks for helping with things like this. It gets very involved. Again, I would still diffuse for at least 24 hours. Then re-evaluate to see what's happened with the spores.

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  52. HELP please! I have recently found yellowish and grey/blue mould growing and other marks?? on and under the car passenger seat mat. Now I know what the horrible smell was for so long and wish I had found it before as I live with a terrible cough and mucus all day every day :-( SO now I have found you and your research thank GOD but YL here in the UK cannot get either the Therapro or Aromalux diffusers (new one from July 2017 but they have the 2-3 years old one!) I have Thieves cleaner, a bit of Thieves oil and a 29ml bottle of Thieves spray. I also have a mask and will get goggles and gloves before I do anything. Should I spray the THC all over the visible fungus on the car carpet and/or lay a couple of soaked cloths in THC on top of it or what please?? Also what to do with the rest of the car? Should items in it be wiped and thrown out? Could the Aroma Ace diffuser (available online in the UK) help and how do they work in the car - cigarette lighter on half engine?? I did have black mould growing in the kitchen in this flat that I rent which was sprayed with diluted thieves and I wonder just what else is lurking behind the walls, under vinyl tiles etc., Have other health challenges too but wonder how can I get tested for mould in my lungs/body as the cultures so far have not shown I have any aspergillus. Also how do I test accurately for mould in this flat please? Do you have any contacts here in the UK who could help me please as I am truly desperate to get on top of all this soon! Thank you so much and GOD Bless you both for all that you are doing for so many. Laura

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  53. Hi Laura - Really sad to hear about the problems you are having. Spraying the THC on the carpet can help a lot, but it might not be enough. Cleaning/wiping down the inside of the car will help, but again, it may not be enough. Items that do not have mold growing on them can be wiped down. They Aroma Ace may work, but we have no tests on how they would work in the UK, and no tests on other diffusers available in the UK, so we cannot answer your questions about diffusers available there. Using the AromaPro might be a possibility for you. We have had some people purchase their diffusers from the USA and use a transformer that converts the electric. We do not know how effective that is. Our experience overseas was that this damaged the unit we took with us on trips to Europe and Australia. We cannot answer questions about using oils for health challenges. However, we do know from MDs who have used our protocol that there are blood serum tests for mold and urine tests for mold that can be run here in the USA. Not certain if that is possible in the UK. If you are already a member of Young Living, contact your upline Sponsor or Enroller and ask them to help you with all these issues. If they don't know the answers, then go up to your nearest YL Diamond, which is listed in your YL Virtual Office, and ask for their assistance. Very Best Wishes for you and wishing you the greatest success in addressing your mold issues and challenges.

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  54. Hi, this is amazing information! Thank you so much for sharing! I do have a question about the Theives cleaner. If my house tested positive through ERMI for mold and 4 of them being dangerous and a HERTZMI score of 18(not good for someone with my genetic makeup) then all items need cleaning. We are moving due to the fact my house is in the country and we are around feedlots that are not good for my sensitive body. So, when we move I plan on storing everything until our new home is tested and deemed safe. Can the Theives cleaner clean all my belongings? Like TVs, furniture, decorations, etc? I of course have studies to put important papers in a plastic bag and wash clothes thoroughly. Will the cleaner kill the spores off the other items? I don't want to get rid of everything if it can be saved. By the way, weve never seen or found the mold in the home? We haven't found a leak. It'a only 8 years old and looks perfect. None of my possessions have had water in them. I'm afraid though the issue is in our HVAC system. Instead of calling someone in, it's too exhausting and I don't love the outdoor environment, I've decided to move. I was tested for mold toxicity because of all the weird symptoms I was having through labs and DNA. It came back as mold exposure and a definite issue with detoxing. I was told to test my environment and that came back with molds that was dangerous. I was in school but needed no more proof. My health is about 80% better since leaving but I'm still far from where I was before moving there two years ago. Sorry so long, thank you for the amazing info. I would be very appreciative if you could answer on the possessions.

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  55. Hi Brooke - ERMI testing is not reliable and will show everything that has ever been in a house. Really glad to hear that you are doing better after moving. Cleaning everything with the Thieves Household Cleaner will help, however, diffusing all items for a minimum of 24 hours before and after cleaning is a better plan. And making certain that whoever is doing the cleaning is protected with Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) during the cleaning process, and also when moving items from one location to another. ERMI testing is addressed at length on this webisite at this link: http://www.naturesmoldrx.com/2014/02/ermi-testing-not-appropriate-for-making.html

    Detoxing your body starts by clearing your home, sleeping, and work space from mold. Diffusing is the best option. You might also benefit from information available on our PUBLICATIONS page: http://www.naturesmoldrx.com/p/books-and-publications-by-edward-r.html. There is an Audio CD there that you should strongly consider. Wishing you all the best for complete recovery. If you are using Young Living Thieves products, you have the best options available today.

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  57. (my questions mostly answered from reading other's posts :-), thank you for this site and all you do!)

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  58. Hello
    thank you for this great work and resources. My question is I am pretty certain there is mold in some of the walls in my apartment. Rather than spend money on air testing, and hoping the owners will do something. considering they have had 2 "professional" termite contractors come look for "mold" and damp material and found none. I did find some high moisture inside my bathroom closet after a leak while they were remolding next door. the leak has been addressed.
    rather than spend the money for air testing, even if the air test shows mold,..the issue may not get fixed. would it be better use that money and follow the diffusing protocol ? thank you .

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  59. I have mold on the ceiling and walls in my bathroom, probably due to steam and condensation. It doesn't actually look like a lot, just some black between the wall tiles and a thin grayish film covering a portion of the ceiling, but I have realized that mold poses a very serious health risk and it needs to be taken care of as soon as possible. So I am looking to get a nebulizing diffuser to diffuse thieves, but I need one that's 220 volts. I don't think that anything from Young Living is an option for me. Aren't there any alternatives? What make these YL diffusers effective?

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  60. How much thieves oil is needed to supply a 48 hour period with a diffuser? I am have purchased the AromaLux and intend to use it in a bathroom, restarted it after 10 hours and hoping to run it for more than 24 hours. There is no visible mold, but we have done remediation and the Hertsmi score still came back too high for our daughter's health.

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  61. Have you tested thieves on Trichoderma or have any evidence on it? Thanks!

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  62. Thanks to you both for your great work, so absolutely inspiring. One eucalyptus oil question - in the essential oils diffusing formula, might Eucalyptus Globulus be effectively substituted for Eucalyptus Radiata? We have no kids, pets, or sensitivity to any eucalyptus, and the areas to treat are not lived in...thanks!

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  63. Aroma Lux has been discontinued by Young Living. Having a hard time finding a cold air diffuser on line. Any recommendations, even if you haven't had the chance to test one yet.

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    1. I love Dr. Close's protocol and so thankful for your work! A building biologist that I found recommends this diffuser to use with Dr. Close's method. I have used it and got great results https://www.avoidingmold.com/essential-oils?fbclid=IwAR0znn4VU99OC5dNQcut_0Q2WhoHJxZpD5ZdTd5LNqlIsTDeuBmcG4IPKfA

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  64. same question!! and mine got very loud as apparently they do after it is older

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  65. I need diffuser recomendations please. can't find one that doesn't shut off after 2 hrs

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  66. I have just finished reading your book Nature's Mold RX: The Non-Toxic Solution to Toxic Mold: A Breakthrough Discovery. I am in the process of ordering the cold air diffuser. We noticed on our unfinished basement wall where the sub pump is a little bit of black mold. We put a humidifier to keep the basement from getting damp. If I diffuse for 48 hours and clean the area with the Thieves household cleaner.

    My wife asked is OnGuard from DoTerra be the same line as Thieves oil?

    Lastly, we have a cat, is it safe for him while diffusing or do we block him for going in the basement.

    Thank you.

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  67. Can you please provide updated diffuser recommendations please?

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  68. Can you please provide an update for the diffuser you recommend? Please!

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  69. Hello and thank you so much for all your work ! do you have recommendations for people in Europe too? I can’t always find us products here …

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  70. Can you please provide an update for the diffuser you recommend.

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  71. hanging car diffusers I admire this article for the well-researched content and excellent wording. I got so involved in this material that I couldn’t stop reading. I am impressed with your work and skill. Thank you so much.

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  72. The company who manufactured the Thera Pro is Diffuser World. Although they no longer make the product for Young Living, they still manufacture the diffuser through their company. It is called the Aroma Ace. Here is their website; https://www.diffuserworld.com/

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  73. Hello. I would like to verify which diffuser you are recommending as the BEST one for mold treatment. Is it the TheraPro Diffuser through Diffuser World? or AromaLux through YL? or the new one Aroma-Ace™ Essential Oil Atomizing Diffuser 110V US through Diffuser World? Also, how do I get the book mentioned in the above blogs? We are getting ready for remediation on our house and would like this extra benefit (and use it in our vehicles too). Is Thieves Oil available to purchase through YL in the "ready to use" state for the diffuser?
    Thanks!

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